The Nature of Evolutionary Biology

DarwinAs part of my occasional series devoted to my own technical papers (forgive the self indulgence, but I’d like that body of work to be known to, if not appreciated by, a slightly wider audience than my academic colleagues), let’s discuss the nature of evolutionary biology as a scientific discipline.

The occasion is provided by a paper I published in a collection put together by K. Kampourakis, entitled The Philosophy of Biology: A Companion for Educators. (The book, here, is pretty expensive; my chapter can be downloaded for free here.)

For some reason, the scientific status of evolutionary theory has always been questioned, and I don’t mean just by creationists. Darwin’s famous “long argument” laying out the foundations of the new field of evolutionary biology, was seen as ill-fitting with both of the major philosophical views of how science works that were being debated in late nineteenth century Victorian England. This is known as the great induction debate, and featured a who’s who of early philosophy of science, with John Stuart Mill and William Whewell (the man who coined the term “scientist” in 1834).

Darwin got in trouble with both Mill and Whewell because they both regarded Darwin’s work as an example of deductive reasoning, not of induction (whitch they both favored as a scientifically-sound means of reasoning). According to Mill and Whewell’s understanding, what Darwin had done was to arrive at a hasty generalization based on a small number of observations, proceeding then (deductively) to derive consequences from them, and finally collecting data for decades to back up his hasty conclusions.

Needless to say, Darwin was taken aback by all this, particularly by Whewell’s criticism, since he had been the latter’s student. Indeed, in apparent frustration, Darwin wrote to a friend: “How odd it is that anyone should not see that all observation must be for or against some view if it is to be of service!” — a sentiment that is ironically perfectly consonant with Whewell’s idea of inference to the best explanation.

The next big battle for the soul of evolutionary biology was the famous, decade-long, debate between two of the founding fathers of population genetics, Ronald Fisher and Sewall Wright. The history of this debate, and the role it played in population genetics, is both complex and fascinating. Fisher was convinced of the absolute preeminence of natural selection in shaping organismal evolution, so much so that he consciously modeled his famous fundamental theorem after the second principle of thermodynamics, one of the most successful laws formulated within the dominant experimental science, physics. Wright, on the other hand, was attracted by the complexity and messiness of biology, and his emphasis was always on non-linear, non-additive genetic effects (epistasis, or gene-gene interaction, and pleiotropy, the fact that the same gene can affect a number of traits). Most famously, Wright was interested in the role of genetic drift in evolution, a stochastic process of population sampling that he regarded as countering, and some times even nullifying, the role of natural selection.

Back in 2006, Jonathan Kaplan and I have suggested a way to conceptualize the balance between natural selection and drift, an approach that might be helpful as part of a general understanding of the respective roles of chance and necessity in evolution. Instead of thinking of drift as a force antagonistic to selection, we can visualize it it as a measure of the “error” surrounding the expected evolutionary change caused by selection. According to this way of thinking, if the target of selection is a particular phenotypic value of a given trait (in a certain environment, of course), then there is a probability distribution that tells us how likely the population actually is to land on that phenotypic target. The smaller the population, the larger the error around the selective target, i.e., the larger the drift. This means that the efficacy of natural selection is directly proportional to the size of the population, just like Fisher maintained. But it is also true, as Wright thought, that if the population is small enough, then the stochastic effect of the drift “error” may completely override natural selection’s push.

The latter part of the twentieth century saw the opening of yet another front in the seemingly perennial discussion about the relative role of chance events in evolutionary biology, as well as about the status of the discipline as historical and yet scientifically fully mature. The main charge was led by Stephen Gould and his associates, with a series of papers that unleashed decades of debates and new research.  The opening salvo by Niles Eldredge and Gould himself was the famous 1972 paper on “punctuated equilibria,” where the standard Darwinian view of gradual evolution was challenged and, by implication, the role of natural selection in shaping long-term evolution somewhat curtailed. The paper argued that at the least in a number of cases evolution proceeds by long periods of stasis — with no detectable phenotypic change — “punctuated” by “sudden” (geologically speaking) bursts of activity. More than four decades later, my sense is that paleontologists are by and large in agreement that Eldredge and Gould basically got it right; neontologists (i.e., largely population biologists), however, are of the opposite opinion.

Much in the above mentioned discussions — like any debate on the nature of science — reflects a certain philosophy of what it means to be doing experimental or historical science. It is therefore a good idea to explicitly deal with that philosophy. An excellent framework for this is provided by a paper published by Carol Cleland in 2002, on the epistemic differences between historical and experimental sciences. Cleland’s pivotal idea is that the two types of science are separated by what she calls an asymmetry of overdetermination. Building on previous work by David Lewis, she explains that “the basic idea is that localized present events overdetermine their causes and underdetermine their effects.”

She elucidates what this means by considering the example of a crime being investigated. Once committed, a crime leaves a number of historical traces, no matter how careful the perpetrator was in erasing as many of them as possible. All it takes for a criminal investigator to figure out what happened is a relatively small number of traces that clearly enough point toward a particular sequence of events. The investigator would then be using a type of induction known as inference to the best explanation (first articulated by Whewell) to pinpoint the culprit. Conversely, the simple act of not committing the crime obviously instantly erases the possibility of any historical trace to be left around. Few currently available clues overdetermine a past event, while so many futures are possible given a particular current state of things that the latter underdetermines the range of futures.

Cleland cashes in this asymmetry of overdetermination by arguing that — contrary to popular wisdom (and to the opinion of many practicing scientists) — there is nothing inherently epistemically superior about experimental over historical science. This is because of two consequences of overdetermination. On the one hand, while experimental scientists have the ability to strictly control the conditions of their experiments, it is that very strictness that limits the scope of applicability of their results: as soon as one widens the settings of a given experiment, different factors begin to interact with each other in complex ways, quickly leading to a large number of possible future outcomes; in other words, predictability is purchased at the expense of generality. On the other hand, while historical traces constantly decay through time, and may disappear forever, the historical scientist often needs only a small amount of them to arrive at a sufficiently accurate reconstruction of what happened — just like the criminal investigator in the hypothetical example of the impossibility of a perfect crime.

Cleland’s account makes sense of some surprising limitations of experimental science, as well as some spectacular successes of historical science. In the first case, it is notable, for instance, that non-equilibrium thermodynamics (for example in its applications to atmospheric physics and climate science) quickly reaches a limit in terms of predictive ability, where complex mathematical models are incapable of generating more than very approximate statistical predictions about the future behavior of complex systems, predictions often accompanied by rapidly expanding margins of error.

In the second case, however, we have for example the success of paleontologists in determining that an extraterrestrial body of massive proportions hit the Earth 65 million years ago, contributing to the extinction of countless numbers of species, chief among them the dinosaurs. The impact was suspected once geologists discovered a worldwide thin layer of iridium in rocks datable to the K/T (Cretaceous/Tertiary) boundary. This led to a search for a crater, the remnants of which were eventually identified off the Yucatan peninsula via satellite imagery. From there, geologists could calculate the size and direction of the impact, and therefore make fresh predictions concerning additional historical traces, for instance those left by the tsunamis that must have hit the western coast of Mexico as a result of the asteroid crush. Sure enough, those traces were found, leading to even more confidence in the conclusion that “the crime” had indeed taken place in the way it had been hypothesized.

Despite, or perhaps because, of all the controversies,  these are exciting times for evolutionary biology, both in terms of empirical discoveries (such as those resulting from the so-called “evo-devo” approach, or from comparative genomics) and conceptual advances (e.g., discussions of new ideas, like evolvability, emergent complexity, and others). And while it is true, as Nobel winner Jacques Monod said, that “even today a good many distinguished minds seem unable to accept or even to understand that from a source of noise natural selection could quite unaided have drawn all the music of the biosphere,” that understanding is getting richer and deeper, but it still hinges on taking seriously the dichotomy and interaction between stochasticity (“drift”) and determinism (natural selection).

56 thoughts on “The Nature of Evolutionary Biology

  1. Clay Farris Naff

    Illuminating, but perhaps this harbors a false dichotomy? The Fisher-Wright debate strikes me as a bit of academic teapot tempest. As your conclusion suggests, natural selection cannot operate without varation, and varied phenotypes cannot survive unless they pass the test of natural selection. Though we may be able to identify some traits of a given organism that may not be subject (at present) to selection pressures, the organism always is, and the environment that provides selection can change at any time. Even an event as dramatic as the K/T impactor is an environmental input that determines the shape of the natural selection sieve for that generation and its progeny.

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  2. Coel

    Hi Massimo,

    More than four decades later, my sense is that paleontologists are by and large in agreement that Eldredge and Gould basically got it right; neontologists (i.e., largely population biologists), however, are of the opposite opinion.

    Wouldn’t a fair assessment be that Eldredge and Gould made two main claims: (1) that the geological record would show a pattern of stasis and rapid change; and (2) that this pattern could not be explained by standard Darwinian evolution, but would require theoretical novelties to explain (e.g. to keep species in stasis) — and that the opinion now is that they were right on (1) but wrong on (2), in that, yes, the geological record often shows stasis punctuated by change, but that that’s expected and explainable by standard evolutionary theory? (I once read something by Huxley that sounded pretty much like PuncEq.)

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  3. synred

    “According to Mill and Whewell’s understanding, what Darwin had done was to arrive at a hasty generalization based on a small number of observations, proceeding then (deductively) to derive consequences from them, and finally collecting data for decades to back up his hasty conclusions.”

    II guess Mill and Whewell didn’t read about the barnacles! Whatever reasoning Darwin did it was not ‘hasty’.

    The data in collected for decades might not have backed up his hypothesis.

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  4. Coel

    Darwin got in trouble with both Mill and Whewell because they both regarded Darwin’s work as an example of deductive reasoning, not of induction (which they both favored as a scientifically-sound means of reasoning).

    Hopefully nowadays we realise that science will use both deductive and inductive reasoning, in fact anything it can get its hands on that is useful. The adjective “scientific” applied to reasoning is not a restriction to a particular type of reasoning, it’s more about the quality control applied to the reasoning.

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  5. couvent2104

    > there is nothing inherently epistemically superior about experimental over historical science

    That’s a strange statement. I think that all scientists would prefer doing experiments over “historical” science – if that possibility existed. Given the choice between “here’s historical science” and “I can recreate the observed historical phenomenon in a lab and control the parameters”, every scientist would prefer the second option. Why, if there’s nothing inherently superior about experimental science?

    > Cleland’s account makes sense of some surprising limitations of experimental science, as well as some spectacular successes of historical science. In the first case, it is notable, for instance, that non-equilibrium thermodynamics (for example in its applications to atmospheric physics and climate science) quickly reaches a limit in terms of predictive ability,

    This is almost silly. Yes, we can’t predict if it’s going to rain next month. But how many predictions can historical science make about next month?

    > The impact was suspected once geologists discovered a worldwide thin layer of iridium in rocks datable to the K/T (Cretaceous/Tertiary) boundary

    How much experimental science was needed to make that observation? How did they find the iridium and how did they discover it was iridium? I bet this surprising success of historical science was contingent on a lot of patient lab work. And I also think the lab work and the science used had no (or almost no) connection to historical science.

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  6. SocraticGadfly

    Seems like pleiotropy needs more emphasis and consideration today, both from some biologists and from science writers. Might help cut down on the “a gene for” stories, both the pitching of ideas and writing of them

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  7. marc levesque

    Coel,

    # The adjective “scientific” applied to reasoning is not a restriction to a particular type of reasoning, it’s more about the quality control applied to the reasoning. #

    But is it. I’d use “good” reasoning to refer to that. I mean there is a lot of bad science going on, so how could saying scientific imply it’s good reasoning.

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  8. synred

    The pix at top of that not is I think Meteor Crater in Arizona. Yucatan is much bigger and mostly under water.

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  9. brodix

    Couvent,

    The opposite position would be that experimental science is a subset of historical science. Given that it has to exist in and support a larger body of evidence.

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  10. brodix

    “The smaller the population, the larger the error around the selective target, i.e., the larger the drift. This means that the efficacy of natural selection is directly proportional to the size of the population, just like Fisher maintained. But it is also true, as Wright thought, that if the population is small enough, then the stochastic effect of the drift “error” may completely override natural selection’s push.”

    Wouldn’t this also involve the prior adaptive pressures on that population? In that a population which had evolved greater adaptability would compensate for a smaller population, relative to a larger population that had been under less selective pressures.

    An obvious example would be humans over pretty much all other megafauna.

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  11. brodix

    My understanding isn’t so much that there is stasis, but ever increasing complexity, in adapting to and filling every niche to its most efficient capacity. Which then sets the stage for collapse due to any number of reasons, because the selection for efficient specialization leaves many species ill-equipped for disruption.

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  12. brodix

    “Few currently available clues overdetermine a past event, while so many futures are possible given a particular current state of things that the latter underdetermines the range of futures.”

    Because the past has been determined and the future has not, but arguing against determinism appears futile.

    Though there is much that can be predicted, given the inertia under which reality, including many people’s beliefs, operate.

    One would think that in a rut, many people would stop digging, but the opposite appears true. They dig faster. Specialization rules.

    Disruption awaits.

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  13. synred

    it is notable, for instance, that non-equilibrium thermodynamics (for example in its applications to atmospheric physics and climate science) quickly reaches a limit in terms of predictive ability, where complex mathematical models are incapable of generating more than very approximate statistical predictions about the future behavior of complex systems, predictions often accompanied by rapidly expanding margins of error.

    –with the advent of ‘chaos theory’ we do at least have a pretty good idea of why weather prediction is so hard …

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  14. synred

    Science

    Hi Massimo:

    I would love it if you’d look at my draft paper called ‘Choosiness and Gender’ at the above site.

    It’s based on a simulation program I wrote to teach myself C++. It does quite interesting things. Unfortunately, my biologist co-author Sarah graduated and got a real job, just as I was forced to return to physics, so we never finished it. We are trying again now that I’ve been forced to retire and a mathematical biologist I sent it to has expressed some interest.

    The key result here is that females develop develop a preference a neutral marker ‘color’ that becomes statistically correlated wit compatible mates that produce viable of spring. Males are given the same opportunity to select ‘color’ but reproduction doesn’t cost them much and they don’t develop a preference.

    The program shows a kind of punctuated equilibrium. As the correlation between ‘color’ and the fitness characteristic ‘beak length’ is stochastic it can take a long time for a big enough fluctuation for the female ‘choosiness’ to latch on to. to occur..

    The ‘color-beak length’ correlation can remain small for a long time and then suddenly take of completing the reproductive isolation of the long ‘ beak and short ‘beak’ groups.

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  15. Coel

    Hi marc,

    I mean there is a lot of bad science going on, so how could saying scientific imply it’s good reasoning.

    “Scientific” reasoning is an aspiration to high-quality reasoning; bad science is when we (as humans) fall short.

    But, my point is that there is no style of valid, high-quality reasoning that science will refuse to make use of because it is “not science”; science is pragmatic and will use anything useful that it can get its hands on.

    Thus I agree with Couvent that science will always use experimental methods where it can because they are so useful — but where it can’t, such as historical sciences, it can still make progress by other methods.

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  16. Coel

    Hi Massimo,

    In fact, Michael Ruse (1975, 2000) has persuasively argued that Darwin consciously tried to develop his theory in accordance with the best philosophy of science of his time, particularly following the views of Whewell and John Herschel.

    Sounds interesting. Can you point to anything about this that is online and not paywalled?

    PS Just googled it and found an online pdf by Pence 2010, which I’ll read. Just got as far as:

    “… but even this cannot explain the variety of claims we find regarding Darwin’s relationship to various philosophers (and philosophies) of science. We learn that Darwin was influenced by Herschel (Hodge 1977; Ruse 1975), that Darwin was not influenced by Herschel (Desmond and Moore 1992; Thagard 1977; Cannon 1976a, 1976b), that Darwin was influenced by Whewell (Ruse 2000, 1978; Curtis 1987), that Darwin was not influenced by Whewell (Hodge 1989, 1991, 2000), or that Darwin was influenced by Lyell (Hodge 1983a, 1983b, 1990, 2009), Comte (Schweber 1997), or German Romanticism (Richards 2002, 2008; Sloan 2001). […] It suffices to say, however, that the waters in this realm are rather muddied” ! 🙂

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  17. Massimo Post author

    Clay,

    “Illuminating, but perhaps this harbors a false dichotomy? The Fisher-Wright debate strikes me as a bit of academic teapot tempest”

    It is a false dichotomy if taken to be an absolute contrast, but the real question is on the relative importance of the two mechanisms in real populations, as well as on the theoretical power of both selection and drift. As for teapots, this was a big one, it occupied a lot of people over decades, largely because decisive empirical evidence is hard to obtain.

    Coel,

    “two main claims: (1) that the geological record would show a pattern of stasis and rapid change; and (2) that this pattern could not be explained by standard Darwinian evolution, but would require theoretical novelties to explain (e.g. to keep species in stasis) — and that the opinion now is that they were right on (1) but wrong on (2)”

    No. There is little disagreement on (1), but a good number of paleontologists and developmental biologists think (2) is viable. The caveat is what one means by “standard Darwinian evolution.” As you may recall, I edited a whole book about that question back a few years ago (The Extended Synthesis, MIT Press).

    Synred,

    Whewell was certainly aware of Darwin’s work on barnacles (I don’t know about Mill), but evidently was not convinced that this wasn’t anything more than a retrofitting of data to a poorly constructed theory.

    I’ll see if I can take a look at your paper, but frankly I’m a bit overwhelmed by other commitments. And that’s my natural state…

    Couvent, Coel,

    “I think that all scientists would prefer doing experiments over “historical” science – if that possibility existed”

    Only fundamental(ist?) physicists reason that way. The problem with experiments is that by definition they construct a highly artificial situation, so that the results can be extrapolated to real world complexities only with a lot of care and a high degree of uncertainty.

    This is particularly so in ecology and evolutionary biology, which are partly experimental and partly historical sciences. Professionals debate all the time the relevance of highly structured controlled experiments to messy field situations. Too many variables, too many interactions get ridden of in controlled experiments.

    Also, to take Cleland’s example, what sort of experiment would one carry out to test the K/T impact theory?

    Finally, please abstain from comments like “This is almost silly.” There is nothing silly about serious professionals arguing about complex matters. If it looks that way to you it may be because you didn’t fully comprehend what is going on.

    Brodix,

    “a population which had evolved greater adaptability would compensate for a smaller population, relative to a larger population that had been under less selective pressures”

    I’m not sure what you are saying there, but Fisher thought that larger populations are the ones that best respond to selection, independently of the intensity of the latter.

    “My understanding isn’t so much that there is stasis, but ever increasing complexity”

    Those are entirely orthogonal issues. Gould make the obvious, but good point that of course complexity increased during the history of life. Since the thing started simple (and how could it have been otherwise?) then the only way to go was more complex. But let’s remember that by far the majority of the biomass on the planet is made of bacteria, among the simplest organisms there are. As Mario Ageno, my professor of biophysics at the University of Rome, used to say, the goal of a bacterium is not to become a human, it is to become two bacteria…

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  18. brodix

    Massimo,

    I guess my point would be population size would only be one factor and only if kept in check, otherwise even that would be a negative.

    Yet it wasn’t really bacteria Gould was referring to, but the geological record of more evolved organisms. It would seem the process of evolution is to keep ever more effectively finding and filling niches, but the consequence becomes a lack of slack in the most specialized/complex forms. The result being building and then collapsing/coalescing complexity.

    At which point the advantage of the lower orders is their population size and adaptability. Especially bacteria.

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  19. brodix

    One might also argue the purpose of bacteria is to escape the petri dish. To push against and explore all possible avenues of expansion and growth and evolved organisms are only more one method of doing this.

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  20. brodix

    If life came from other planets/places, it would have been as the most basic organisms and if it were to further populate the cosmos, it would also be as basic organisms. Yet one method of doing this would be the space exploration vehicles of the most evolved organisms. So we are an extension of that primal impulse.

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  21. brodix

    This wouldn’t even be teleological, just the feedback of of outward pressure creating complex reactions.

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  22. synred

    “Any genetic algorithm that I ever wrote, that went anywhere at all, featured a ‘punctured equilibrium’ pattern of progress”

    Interesting! So may that hints that statics are at the root of punctuated equilibrium, right? Likely well known?

    FINCHES is not just a genetic algorithm seeking to optimize a parameter, but an individual based simulation. Original intent was to simulate sympatric speciation which is quite easy. Getting it to be based on neutral marker a little trickier. What’s different form previous simulations of ‘neutral marker’ is that both males and females are given the opportunity and a gene to control ‘color selectivity’. The only difference between males and females is that it cost females a lot more ‘energy’ to reproduce than it does males.

    Being based on a brute force particle Physics style Monte Carlo (follow the particle or ‘bird’) it is different from the usual mathematical biologist model. At the time I wrote it I only considered it a toy, but I’m told in has some interesting aspects that might make it worth pursuing even all these years later. It can do many more things than the ‘neutral marker’ study.

    Early on I had an interesting ‘extinction’ event. I exponentially increased the food supply. I did not come to the equilibrium as it does with a steady food supply. The number of ‘birds’ went through roof and kept on rising. I expected it to crash, but virtual memory came to the reseque and I didn’t. After about 10 hours, the population crashed and all ‘birds’ died. Apparently, the population chased the food supply and surpassed it. Anyway with 10 hour runs, I could not really follow this up at the time.

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  23. couvent2104

    > Only fundamental(ist?) physicists reason that way.

    I think there’s a misunderstanding. I studied physics, but I’m not a fundamentalist. I wasn’t making a statement about the sciences but about philosophy. I know very little about the practices of the historical sciences, but I assume that excellent work is being done and do not consider historical sciences “inferior” to experimental sciences.
    However, first of all I don’t like the (in my view false) dichotomy between historical and experimental sciences because the historical sciences make use of experimental science too if they can.
    And there’s something else. Charged pions were discovered in 1947 by studying the interaction of cosmic rays with the atmosphere. In a certain sense, this was historical science, because the cosmic rays were produced in unknown circumstances and probably many, many years before the experiment was done. But now we can make pions in particle accelerators and we don’t rely on cosmic rays anymore.
    *If* historical scientist were able to make such a step, *then* they would certainly make it. They often aren’t, and for me that’s no reason to consider their work inferior. But you have to wonder where my “if … then … “ statement leaves the philosophical statement that “there is nothing inherently epistemically superior about experimental over historical science” (the clue is in the rather vague qualification “inherently”, I suspect.)

    > … it may be because you didn’t fully comprehend what is going on.

    I confess. I don’t fully comprehend it. But it’s not my fault. Cleland is making – implicitly or explicitly – a comparison and for a useful comparison you need a common yardstick. The yardstick used to the judge the limits of non-equilibrium thermodynamics is its predictive ability, for example on a timescale of days, weeks and months (atmospheric physics). Fine with me, but then one should use the same yardstick to judge the success of the historical sciences. So yes, I’m deeply sorry, but I think the example is silly.
    (And a serious debate could be had about the question if the limited predictive ability of non-equilibrium thermodynamics indeed is a “surprising limitation”. Theory suggests that we should expect this limited predictive ability in the case of atmospheric physics, and we do find it. We also have a good feeling for the reasons for this limited predictability. For me this counts as a success, but tastes may vary.)

    > serious professionals arguing about complex matters

    OK, fair. But the reason for my reaction was that her statements – as presented by you – struck me as rather crude. By the way, I checked the curriculum of Carol Cleland. It does not immediately inspire confidence in the authority of her judgements about the success of non-equilibrium thermodynamics.

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  24. garthdaisy

    Good Summary, Massimo,

    I have respect for both experimental and historical science and think they aid each other.

    It would be strange not to see the nature of human competitiveness and ego showing up in the sciences. It doesn’t concern me too much. I trust all of those combating egos to keep each other in check while at the same time driving each other to achieve and innovate.

    This is the very best “use” of human competitiveness in my mind. Competing to see who can do the most for the world. If knowledge about the way the world actually is is helpful to us, then a competition to see who can reveal the best such knowledge is a great way to use human competitiveness as an engine for the advancement of society.

    To relate this to, and to clarify some of my earlier comments on capitalism, a competition to see who can gain the most personal financial wealth is not a good use of human competitive nature in my mind because it brings out the worst in us, and does anyone really buy “trickle down economics” anymore?

    A competition to see who can discover the best most useful and truthful facts about the world might generate petty battles between scientists, but the benefits for all of us are so much greater than the competition for personal wealth that our economic society is based on.

    I imagine competition in hunter gatherer tribes was of the nature I am describing. Who can be the best provider, protector, care giver, hunter, gatherer, medicine person, cook, inventor, and yes, baby maker! Given that we lived as hunter gatherer tribes for so many millions of years, it seems hard to imagine that we did not develop instincts to be the best helpers rather than to be the best takers. I am using no scientific data to make this claim, just a general knowledge of evolution and the history of human tribal life and my own observations of human nature from the inside and out. I repeat, I have made no scientific claim here. Just a dummy’s guess. Okay?

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  25. Robin Herbert

    What garth says about competitiveness and science (and proto science) sounds very plausible to me.

    If so then we might be reaching the first time in human history where people who reason, and people who reason using observation and testing, are out competing those who just make stuff up.

    Or at least drawing level.

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