Munchausen’s trilemma and the impossibility of certain truth

Munchausen'S bootstrapOne day the Baron Munchausen found himself stuck in a mire together with his horse. The situation was dire, but he managed to save himself (and his horse!) by pulling his hair up until he was lifted out of the mud.

Obviously, Munchausen’s feat is impossible, as it violates the law of gravity. So it is fitting that it gives the name to the most compelling demonstration of the impossibility of another impossibility that human beings have been after for quite some time: certain knowledge.

One of the earliest demonstrations that certainty isn’t something that human beings can reasonably aspire to was given by the ancient skeptics. Julia Annas (who, incidentally, will be one of the speakers of the forthcoming STOICON event in New York City, on 15 October) presents the argument as articulated by Sextus Empiricus (in her translation of Outlines of Scepticism):

“According to the mode deriving from dispute, we find that undecidable dissension about the matter proposed has come about both in ordinary life and among philosophers. Because of this we are not able to choose or to rule out anything, and we end up with suspension of judgment. In the mode deriving from infinite regress, we say that what is brought forward as a source of conviction for the matter proposed itself needs another such source, which itself needs another, and so ad infinitum, so that we have no point from which to begin to establish anything, and suspension of judgment follows. In the mode deriving from relativity, as we said above, the existing object appears to be such-and-such relative to the subject judging and to the things observed together with it, but we suspend judgment on what it is like in its nature. We have the mode from hypothesis when the Dogmatists, being thrown back ad infinitum, begin from something which they do not establish but claim to assume simply and without proof in virtue of a concession. The reciprocal mode occurs when what ought to be confirmatory of the object under investigation needs to be made convincing by the object under investigation; then, being unable to take either in order to establish the other, we suspend judgment about both.”

The modern version of the argument relies on three alternative paths to certain knowledge, all judged to be dead ends (hence Munchausen’s tri-lemma, also known as Agrippa’s trilemma, from the Greek skeptic to whom Diogenes Laertius attributes the original formulation). If someone states something to be certainly true, we are well within our rights to ask him how does he know that. To which there can be only three classes of answers:

1. A circular argument, where at some point the theory and the alleged proof support each other, however indirectly.

2. An argument from regression, in which the proof relies on a more basic proof, which in turn relies on an even more basic one, and so on, in an infinite regress.

3. An axiomatic argument, where the proof stems from a (hopefully) small number of axioms or assumptions which, however, are not themselves subjected to proof.

It is self-evident why none of the above options are good enough, if one’s objective is to arrive at certainty. And I should immediately add that these are the only three modes available not just in the case of deductive logic (which means most of mathematics), but also in the case of inductive inference (which means the rest of math and all of scientific as well as common knowledge — see Hume’s problem of induction).

There are, of course, different ways of biting the bullet, and they correspond to some of the major schools of epistemology. Say you find the first option (circularity) as the most palatable — or the least distasteful — one. Then you are a coherentist about knowledge, arguing for something like Quine’s web of belief approach. If you’d rather go for infinite regression you are, quite appropriately, an infinitist (which, as far as I know, is not a popular position among epistemologists). But if your taste agrees more with the idea of unproven axioms, then you are a foundationalist, someone who thinks of knowledge as built, metaphorically, like an edifice, on foundations (which, however, cannot be further questioned).

If none of the above does it for you, then you can go more radical. One way to do so is to be a fallibilist, that is someone who accepts that human knowledge cannot achieve certainty, but that we can still discard notions because they have been shown to be false (see Popper’s falsifiability criterion).

Karl Popper, who wrote about Munchausen’s trilemma in his The Logic of Scientific Discovery (a book that I’m re-appreciating the more I am sent to it by way of other readings) opted for a mixed approach: he thought that a judicious combination of dogmatism (i.e., assuming certain axioms), regress, and perceptual experience is the best we can do, even though it falls short of the chimera of certainty.

It has to be noted that Munchausen’s trilemma does not imply that we cannot make objective statements about the world, nor that we are condemned to hopeless epistemic relativism. The first danger is avoided once we realize that — given certain assumptions about whatever problem we are focusing on — we can say things that are objectively true. Just think, for instance, of the game of chess. Its rules (i.e., axioms) are entirely arbitrary, invented by human beings out of whole cloth. But once accepted, chess problems do admit of objectively true solutions (as well as of a large number of objectively false ones). This ought to clearly show that arbitrariness is not equivalent to lack of objectivity.

The second danger, relativism, is pre-empted by the fact that some solutions to whatever problem do work (whatever the criterion for “working” is) better than others. It is true that engineers have to make certain assumptions about the laws of nature, as well as accept the properties of the materials they use as raw facts. But it is equally true that bridges built in a certain way stay up and function properly, while bridges built in other ways have a nasty tendency to collapse.

So, it looks like the quest for certainty, which has plagued both philosophy and science since the time of Plato, is doomed to failure. But are we certain of this? If so, then doesn’t that certainty itself undermine our very contention that there can be no certainty to begin with? Nice try, but no, because we do not actually have a proof that there can be no certainty. Munchausen’s trilemma is a reasonable conclusion arrived at by logical reasoning. But logic itself has to make certain assumptions in order to work, so there…

210 thoughts on “Munchausen’s trilemma and the impossibility of certain truth

  1. Disagreeable Me (@Disagreeable_I)

    Hi Massimo,

    Nice article and interesting topic.

    It has to be noted that Munchausen’s trilemma does not imply that we cannot make objective statements about the world

    Agreed. Anyone can make objective statements about the world. A theist can make the objective statement that God exists, for instance. So that doesn’t help us much. The idea that we can make statements which have some objective truth value is trivial, surely. While you’re technically right in the above quote, I think the quote is misleading for this reason. It implies (it seems to me) that we can have certainty about these objective statements, but as I’m sure you’ll agree, we can’t. Perhaps the point should be expressed as the view that there are objective truths and not simply the trivial fact that we can make statements which have an objective truth value.

    But once accepted, chess problems do admit of objectively true solutions

    Yes. Kind of. But as with a theist making objective claims about God existing, we can’t be sure that our supposed solutions for these chess problems are correct. To do so we have to assume not only the rules of chess but also that the laws of logic are a way of obtaining truth and you have to assume that human beings are capable of applying these laws correctly in the context of the rules of chess. We can’t be sure that these supposedly objectively true solutions really are objectively true. All you can be really sure of is that these solutions seem true to you.

    So, we can agree that it seems like the solutions are objectively true, but we can’t ultimately prove that they are, even once we accept the laws of chess.

    The second danger, relativism, is pre-emptied

    I think you mean pre-empted.

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  2. Imad Zaheer

    Fallibilism, especially as espoused by Peirce and other pragmatists, seems the best way to look at this issue and especially aligned with scientific work. Haack also does a better job of articulating what I think Quine was trying to do. Instead of vicious circularity which Quine’s web can fall into, you can have some stronger beliefs that are based on experiential evidence while still accounting for mutual support among beliefs that is not circular (foundherentism).

    That aside, I think there are still certain facts or knowledge, just not ones that can be used a foundation. There is something rather than nothing is probably one of them but doesn’t really have anything that follows from it.

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  3. Douglass Smith

    To make a merely semantic point, I think this argument may propose too high a bar for “certainty”. In daily life we use the phrase “I’m certain”, apparently truthfully, without assuming that we must therefore have such strong confirmation. One could say that we are therefore always in error when we claim certainty in daily life, but I think eliminativism about certainty isn’t really our best option.

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  4. Coel

    Hi Massimo,

    First, I agree with you that we can never have absolutely certain knowledge.

    Then you are a coherentist about knowledge, arguing for something like Quine’s web of belief approach.

    I would suggest that the Quinean web approach is a mixture of coherentism and correspondenceism. In science we worry about two things: the internal logic and coherence of our models (coherence truth) and the match of that web to empirical reality (correspondence truth). The scientific method is then a continual iteration between the two.

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  5. Robin Herbert

    I always thought that the point of Baron Von Munchausen was not that his exploits were impossible (after all, some of them were not) but that he was an inveterate teller of tall tales. That puts an interesting spin on the Munchausen trilemma.

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  6. jbonnicerenoreg

    “It is self evident why none of the above options are good enough”.
    From discussing topics on Facebook it becomes apparent that there are some sincere students who do not get the self referential contradiction of the above quote. How about ” It is certain that there is no certainty so one mist suspend judgement about everything “. These self referential problems stopped Frege and Russell but Sceptics seem to be OK with them!

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  7. pete1187

    Nice piece Massimo.

    I will say, however, that I beg to differ on there being “absolutely no certainty” when it comes to epistemology. Humanity does indeed have one piece of knowledge that is completely certain, and it was first formulated in the thoughts of Rene Descartes and his famous cogito ergo sum. Now, one could qualify this by criticizing whether it’s an “I” doing the thinking, and that’s ok because a 100% certain conclusion still follows.

    Whether we are experiencing an objective reality, hallucinating on some hardcore narcotics, floating in a vat, controlled by a demon, or part of a universal simulation, it is in all cases true that “something exists/something is happening.” I like to put it in these terms because of the philosophical vagaries that can follow talks of personhood and consciousness, and it’s truly impossible to negate this without somehow admitting that an external world/hallucination/brain in a vat/evil demon/simulation is isomorphic to nothingness, which is completely absurd.

    So “something exists/happens/occurs,” and this we can be certain of beyond a shadow of a doubt (though to probe any further into the nature of what that “something” is immediately runs afoul of the aforementioned trilemma).

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  8. Robert Michael Ellis

    Good to read a reasonably consistent sceptical piece based on the traditional forms of scepticism. However, scepticism goes further than this. Your claim that “we can say things that are objectively true” is undermined by embodied meaning theory, which undermines the representationalist assumption that our propositions are even capable of lining up with a ‘reality’ of some kind. When the meaning of our language depends on a network of synaptic links developed in relation to bodily experience, we can no longer assume that language functions as representation.

    For me, too, the real debate about scepticism is not whether it can be refuted – of course it can’t – but about its implications. One crucial point is whether negative statements are subject to as much uncertainty as positive ones – which, if affirmed, creates the important distinction between balanced Pyrrhonian scepticism and the misunderstood caricature of scepticism that has taken its place in most modern philosophy. Once you understand that scepticism is not negative, can’t be extreme, and does not need ‘mitigating’, it actually becomes a helpful tool to remind us of an uncertainty that can help us justify our beliefs better. Another crucial point is the relationship between the philosophical recognition of uncertainty and the psychological cultivation of provisionality as a mental state in which judgement is made. I’d see provisionality as the vital virtue for our times, and scepticism as a very helpful way of supporting it. For more on this line of thought, see http://www.middlewaysociety.org/the-misunderstanding-of-scepticism/

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  9. Philosopher Eric

    Damn you Pete, you beat me to the punch! Actually I’m kidding. I’m convinced that the more people I out there who think like me, the better things are for me. Have a look at my own way of making your point:

    <<<I don’t agree that there is nothing I can know with perfect certainty, or that I can have no ultimate foundation for my beliefs. There is one such thing, and it goes like this:

    I think…

    This is the one thing, perhaps the only thing, that I can know with perfect certainty. Of course one may then ask what I mean by “think.” I consider this to be “the processing element of the conscious mind,” though a full consideration of my consciousness model itself may be required to understand this in an exhaustive sense.

    Here some may also observe, “Hey, you’re simply ripping off Rene Descartes!” Well yes, I believe he existed and mentioned this point centuries ago, but I don’t “know” this to be true. And then why would so many philosophers since his time, not have learned this particular lesson? Perhaps he didn’t exist at all! Or perhaps someone would like to argue that I don’t know, with perfect certainty, that I think?>>>

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  10. Massimo Post author

    Imad,

    I don’t think Quine’s web is viciously circular, it would be so only if it relied on very few, obvious steps, but it doesn’t, it encompasses the whole of available human knowledge.

    “There is something rather than nothing is probably one of them”

    Hmm, what if we are in a simulation? Or dreaming? Then again, it depends on what one means by “something.”

    The broader issue, though, is that these considerations are crucial when applied to everyday and scientific knowledge, not so much to thinks like “I think therefore I am.”

    Douglass,

    Here “certainty” means complete certainty, as the one that Pythagoras and Plato thought one derives from mathematical proof.

    Coel,

    Fair point about Quine’s web including empirical / sensorial evidence. But even that one, in order to count as knowledge, has to be interpreted, which means that we are back to coherence as the primary criterion. Certainly no empirical information is foundational.

    Robert,

    I’m not convinced that embodied meaning theory undermines my claim that one can make objective statements. Notice that I said “objective,” not “true.” It is an objective fact that in polite society one ought to organize silverware in a certain way on the table, but this doesn’t correspond to any truth “out there” in the world, other than a completely arbitrary convention.

    I’m also not convinced that “most modern philosophy” misunderstands skepticism. Do you have any references?

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  11. Douglass Smith

    Thanks, Massimo. I hesitate to speculate about the accuracy of Plato’s and Pythagoras’s notion of certainty. There is a good sense in which one may be more certain that 1+1=2 than that of any empirical fact. But here we are still talking about some form of natural language certainty. That is, it is one that is defeasible, even if I am not sure how one could go about defeating the claim that 1+1=2.

    That is, if the claim is that the certainty at issue is a form of absolutism, then perhaps we can be more comfortable with its elimination.

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  12. Thomas Jones

    Massimo: “It is an objective fact that in polite society one ought to organize silverware in a certain way on the table, but this doesn’t correspond to any truth “out there” in the world, other than a completely arbitrary convention.”

    Isn’t objective unnecessarily redundant in this construction? I agree with your conclusion here (“arbitrary convention”), but the point is so broadly painted as to be useless. So, I don’t follow. This seems merely to invest an agreed upon basis of “convention” as somehow objective. Let’s say you invite me to attend, and I proceed to rearrange the placement before you toss me out, is my alteration of the arrangement “objective” too? Maybe this is just a poorly chosen example of your point as a counter to Robert’s which I may not fully grasp. I’d be interested in both your and Robert’s reactions.

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  13. Massimo Post author

    Thomas,

    I actually think etiquette is a good analogy (in addition to the one with chess in the OP). The point is that it is objectively true that etiquette works in fashion X in country Y and in fashion W in country Z. But of course the whole thing is arbitrary. So objectivity is not in counter-position with relativity.

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  14. Robert Michael Ellis

    Massimo: Actually I prefer to use ‘objective’ in the sense of ‘more adequate’ of personal judgement, but my impression was that you were using it in the (philosophically) more common sense of ‘God’s eye view’. If you were, then I don’t understand your distinction between objectivity and truth. Embodied meaning creates an alternative to the representationalist assumption that one can produce language that could conceivably correspond to either truth or God’s eye view objectivity (if they’re different). It’s just a big assumption that one could – one for which there is no justification given that this is not how language is set up at all when it’s embodied. The burden of proof should lie on those who make the extraordinary claim that meaning engraved in nervous systems can do such a thing.

    On the misunderstanding of scepticism, I’ve just given you a reference above. It’s actually of a blog piece that I once submitted to you, and then you returned because you were closing scientia salon. I don’t know whether or not you ever read it. There’s also an academic paper linked at the beginning of that blog post.

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  15. landzek

    I think the overall point of the excersize indicates not so much some weird capacity or nature of human thought or thinking, rather, more that the path that leads to such contradiction or circularity is, itself, incorrect.

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  16. Massimo Post author

    Robert,

    I think that going to god’s eye views and such is making the issue too complicated. Let’s go back to my example of etiquette: I can make objectively true statements about a society’s etiquette despite the fact that it doesn’t correspond to any non-relative truth. It is “true” for people living in, say, England, that forks ought to be positioned to the right of the plate (or whatever). That truth is, obviously, entirely arbitrary; and yet it is “objective” in the straightforward sense that everybody can agree that it is the case, even though they’d prefer to put forks on the left side, maybe because they are left-handed, or just because.

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  17. Robert Michael Ellis

    Massimo: This ‘objectivity’ as you define it seems to be no more than convention. I don’t think it’s news that what people conventionally agree upon (as custom) they conventionally agree upon (having shared language about their customs). It also has no relevance to my point that embodied meaning undermines the whole assumption that language could represent reality. Even mathematical conventions are still conventions, which (as George Lakoff has shown) depend for their meaning on our bodies.

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  18. Robin Herbert

    Hi Robert,

    If John, Mary and Simon agree upon such-and-such a convention then then it is objectively true that John, Mary and Simon have agreed upon such-and-such a convention.

    It is not a convention that John, Mary and Simon have agreed upon such-and-such a convention.

    So an objective truth is not just a convention, even if it is an objective truth about a convention.

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  19. Massimo Post author

    Robert,

    What Robin said above. I don’t think it is trivial. As for embodied meaning, that is your point, not mine. I’m having a hard time imagining why you brought it up. And Lakoff may have shown what you say, but I can’t make sense of the phrase “Even mathematical conventions are still conventions, which depend for their meaning on our bodies.”

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  20. Robin Herbert

    Tautologically, mathematical conventions are conventions. But a mathematical truth does not depend upon the conventions or axioms being true. indeed there is no claim that they are true.

    I have read the preface of Lakoff’s book (I am assuming “Where Mathematics Comes From How the Embodied Mind Brings Mathematics into Being”), he seems to be under a misapprehension about this. He is under the impression that there is a contradiction between the fundamental mathematical ideas being metaphorical and mathematics being real. He is under the impression that the metaphorical nature of some fundamental mathematical ideas is somehow “surprising”.

    And, just for the records the complex plane does not “conceptualise multiplication metaphorically in terms of rotation”. There is a difference between linking two concepts logically, and having one as a metaphor of the other.

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  21. Thomas Jones

    Well, I’m still at a loss, and it has little to do with Massimo’s article, though toward the end, it seems to suggest an unwitting functional or pragmatic approach to certainty in the aftermath of the analogy to “bridges,” despite the link logical assumptions. No, most of my interest lies in Massimo’s response to Robert’s original comment, where Massimo draws attention to his use of “objective statements” as opposed to “truth.” Now, we contend with “objective fact/statement/truth” the last phrase of which is returned to in Robin’s comment. It seems to me that certainty becomes an ad hoc temporal reconstruction of a past event. It may be true or factual “that John, Mary and Simon have agreed upon such-and-such a convention” on Monday, but come Tuesday Mary bails out and takes Monday’s certainty and objective truth with her, thus forcing a reconstruction of the agreed upon convention that excludes her or finds a proxy.

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  22. Thomas Jones

    My previous comment was made before Massimo’s latest comment. But, I disagree, I do find the point trivial and only muddying the waters that you stirred in noting to Robert, “Notice that I said ‘objective,’ not ‘true.’ It is an objective fact . . . .” It is not at all clear to me that “certainty” has been conceptually explicated in any of these exchanges.

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  23. Robin Herbert

    If I dropped in at the philosophy department at CUNY and found, contrary to what I have been led to believe, they did not sit at a round table eating spaghetti with forks or, if they did so, then they might have obtained sufficient forks so as not to have to share – doubtless I would be disappointed but I don’t think that would change any of the objective facts I know about operating system design.

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  24. Mark Szlazak

    I do not have Poppers original works. Seems like critical rationalism has been reformulated. David Miller’s two books “Critical Rationalism: A Restatement and Defense” and “Out of Error” is where i started and left off years ago.

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