Book Club: Philosophy of Nature, ch. 2

Xenophanes

We have recently began taking a look at Paul Feyerabend’s (recently released, even though he died back in 1994) book Philosophy of Nature, which presents his ideas on the history of the different ways in which human beings have tried to make sense of the world. The second chapter is on the structure and function of myths, since mythological accounts are one of the three “forms of life” that humans have come up with in order to understand the world, and that Feyerabend explores in his book (the other two are philosophy and science).

Feyerabend points out that very early on a conflict started between myth and philosophy, for instance with Xenophanes accusing Homer of defaming the gods, and with Plato’s attack on poetry in the Republic. Perhaps more interesting, and unknown to me before reading Philosophy of Nature, is the fact that a contemporary of Xenophanes, Theagenes of Rhegium interpreted the gods as forces of nature, and understood their quarrels as the interactions among such forces. Apparently, Theagenes set out to defend Homer, but did so by introducing the then radical idea that mythological texts ought to be read as allegories.

Regardless, says Feyerabend, “With the attacks by Xenophanes (Fragments 21B11, 12; see also 14, 15, 32, 34) and Heraclitus (Fragments 22B40, 42) the once-uniform body of learning is split up into philosophy, which proceeds purely conceptually, aiming to eradicate the imagist way of thinking of earlier epochs, and poetry (verse, drama, etc.), which continues to employ the old tools even when presenting new ideas.”

This, then, is a crucial moment in the history of Western thought: when poetic / mythological understanding of the world diverges from philosophy, which, of course, later on will in turn give rise to science.

Next, Feyerabend makes an interesting move in drawing a parallel between different ways of interpreting myths and different ways of interpreting scientific theories. Bear with me for a minute. Beginning with the myths, he suggests that there are two ways of developing what he calls a “nature theory” of myths, that is a theory that assumes that myths are based on some sort of core factual truth. (Obviously, there are non-nature theories of myth as well.) Nature theories of myth can be epistemologically naive or more sophisticated: “[the] naïve version, which is closely related to naïve realism, assumes that the elements of reality, the ‘facts,’ are unambiguously presented to human consciousness and that these facts can be unambiguously described with the help of concepts. … The refined version, by contrast, assumes that influencing [of “facts” by concepts] does occur and considers it an important component of our knowledge.”

And here is the parallel with philosophy of science: “The transition from the naïve theory of nature myths to the more refined version is paralleled in more recent developments in philosophy of science. Here, too, it was first assumed that scientific concepts and scientific theories are uniquely determined by the phenomena of nature and that any differences in their theoretical structure must be due to errors of thought or experiment.”

What Feyerabend is getting at is the conclusion — I believe fairly widespread among philosophers of science, nowadays (but not when Feyerabend was writing) — that a naive realist interpretation of scientific theories is untenable: there is no sharp separation between facts and concepts, and our conceptual frameworks in part determine what counts as a relevant fact or not. This isn’t necessarily a particularly novel idea, as it was expressed already by Darwin in a famous letter to a friend of his: “How odd it is that anyone should not see that all observation must be for or against some view if it is to be of any service!”

(That letter was written by an exasperated Darwin, who was having a hard time convincing his mentor, William Whewell — the guy who invented the word “scientist” — that Darwin’s Origin was a very good example of the type of induction, known as inference to the best explanation, that Whewell was championing against the more traditional account of induction defended by John S. Mill. See my summary of the dispute here.)

Feyerabend then discusses Edward Burnett Tylor’s Religion in Primitive Culture, and in particular Tylor’s theory that “mythological concepts are all object-based and the myths themselves are ‘a perfectly rational and intelligible product of early science.’ Gods, demons, ghosts, vampires, and their various destinies are not just ‘mere creations of groundless fancy’ — that is, they are neither symbols nor analogies — but ’causes conceived in spiritual form to account for specific facts.'” According to Tylor, that is, myths and science have the same objective: to collect salient appearances and provide explanations for them.

(It should go without saying, but just because two activities have the same objectives it doesn’t follow at all that they are equally good at achieving them, nor is Feyerabend arguing anything of the sort.)

The last section of the chapter is devoted to Levi-Strauss’s criticism of the nature theory of myths, in favor of what Feyerabend calls a structuralist account. (Again, notice the similarity with developments in philosophy of science: structuralism is a family of quasi-realist approaches to the nature of scientific theorizing, according to which relations, rather than concrete entities, are the locus of action.) According to Levi-Strauss, “The mistake of Mannhardt and the Naturalist School was to think that natural phenomena are what myths seek to explain, when they are rather the medium through which myths try to explain facts which are themselves not of a natural but logical order.” (Again, it’s about relations, not raw facts.)

Levi-Strauss’s position seems to be that myths reflect some kind of deep structure of the human mind, rather than refer, in however distorted a way, to the outside world, as both the naive and sophisticated forms of nature theory do. Feyerabend’s final comment on this is: “Lévi-Strauss’ ideas are comparable to the new and more complex forms of empiricism that have developed in philosophy of science within the past ten to fifteen years. His critique of naïve naturalistic-utilitarian theories of myth, totemism, and other elements of preliterate societies has much in common with the critique of naïve empiricist theories of science. In both cases we have to ask how a certain social product refers to the nature that surrounds it; in both cases we recognize that the received theories (of science, of myth) contradict conspicuous — though not always familiar — facts.”

I take Feyerabend to be sympathetic to Levi-Strauss’s structuralist approach to myths, although he does think that it goes too far in discounting the role that the external world plays in shaping myths.

Next up: Homer’s aggregate universe.

125 thoughts on “Book Club: Philosophy of Nature, ch. 2

  1. Robin Herbert

    This made me think of Carl Sagan’s “Dragons of Eden” where he repurposes the Eden myth as an allegory about the evolution of the brain. That is obviously nothing like what the original authors intended, but it is surprising how well the elements of the story can be made to fit the new meaning.

    That makes me wonder, when a myth can be read as an allegory for something, whether we can tell that this was the original intention or whether this has been read into it later.

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  2. SocraticGadfly

    Very interesting. The philosophy-theology split relates to the poetic-prose one to some degree. In turn, it’s a point within exegesis, discussion, debate and dispute as to whether a religious author was speaking poetically or prosaically.

    On Darwin, et al, aren’t we moving from induction to at least the direction of abduction at this point?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abductive_reasoning

    For that matter, Levi-Strauss’s approach to myth has at least a small nod in that direction. (Note: There is a full Encyclopedia of Mythology devoted to structuralist-type classifications of myths from around the world.)

    That said, and per previous discussion a few posts ago, I’m not sure how much Levi-Strauss really separated himself from the old myth-and-ritual school beyond the rejection of the “savage mind.” Don’t get me wrong; that’s a big deal there. But, certainly, to me, it seems his depth psychology take on the “driver” of myth is amenable to/susceptible to the same criticism, at least in part.

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  3. Massimo Post author

    Socratic,

    Still having trouble posting to this new thread? I haven’t changed the parameters…

    Anyway, abduction is inference to the best explanation, what Darwin told Whewell he was doing. Some philosophers consider it a type of induction, others its own thing. It too has come under criticism, though: http://tinyurl.com/h3nxj9x

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  4. wtc48

    Abductive reasoning sounds like what I used to get marked down for in algebra class, i.e. intuiting the answer and leaving out the steps. If I’d been right all the time, they might have changed their tune.

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  5. SocraticGadfly

    Massimo, I do like the SEP piece, both in giving some easy-to-follow examples of abductive reasoning and its possible connection to Bayesian probabilities, which I have thought myself.

    On the Darwin example, it would qualify as quasi-abductive, at least, if we grant the assumption that, by that point in time, he is operating under the assumption evolutionary theory is true.

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  6. Robin Herbert

    From the lay point of view, the reasonable interpretation of myths is that they are the stories that have most appealed to people for a number of reasons, and not just one. Thus we can never be sure what it is about myths that made them take hold, other than that they still seem to appeal to us on some level.

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  7. SocraticGadfly

    Robin is right about cultural evolution, or, without going into the “m-word,” cultural cross-pollination. There’s also cultural appropriation. A fair chunk of the “J” section of the Torah is attempts to put a Yahweh-driven gloss on beliefs and ideas that were surely held before the rise of an Israelite religion. The same is true about the Kaaba and certain features of the hajj, and so forth.

    I think the Straussian idea is undercut by the fact that some things, which arguably would be universal based on depth psychology, are not. Take the seeming universality of flood-type myths, which Frazier expounded on in myth-and-ritual times — only to overlook that many desert-dwelling peoples don’t have such myths.

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  8. ejwinner

    For a simple example of ‘abduction’ – it’s what Sherlock Holmes does, although he calls it ‘deduction’ –
    ” “How in the world did you deduce that?” I asked.
    “Deduce what?” said he, petulantly.
    “Why, that he was a retired sergeant of Marines.”
    “I have no time for trifles,” he answered, brusquely, then with a smile, “Excuse my rudeness. You broke the thread of my thoughts; but perhaps it is as well. So you actually were not able to see that that man was a sergeant of Marines?”
    “No, indeed.”
    “It was easier to know it than to explain why I know it. If you were asked to prove that two and two made four, you might find some difficulty, and yet you are quite sure of the fact. Even across the street I could see a great blue anchor tattooed on the back of the fellow’s hand. That smacked of the sea. He had a military carriage, however, and regulation side whiskers. There we have the marine. He was a man with some amount of self-importance and a certain air of command. You must have observed the way in which he held his head and swung his cane. A steady, respectable, middle-aged man, too, on the face of him—all facts which led me to believe that he had been a sergeant.”” – A Study in Scarlet.

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  9. Robin Herbert

    Hi Socratic,

    A fair chunk of the “J” section of the Torah is attempts to put a Yahweh-driven gloss on beliefs and ideas that were surely held before the rise of an Israelite religion.

    And in turn Christianity put a Christian gloss on those stories, so “her seed shall crush your head” is supposed to be a prophecy of Christ.

    This sometimes becomes slightly ridiculous for example taking the Song of Solomon as an allegory of Christ’s love for the Church. It sounds a little too frisky for the way a Deity should feel about his church.

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  10. synred

    It would [have] be[en] banned it Boston if not hidden in a book everybody reads [sic –> owns], but nobody reads.

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  11. Robin Herbert

    Hi wtc48

    “Abductive reasoning sounds like what I used to get marked down for in algebra class, i.e. intuiting the answer and leaving out the steps. If I’d been right all the time, they might have changed their tune.”

    Although being able to intuit the answer is probably a much more useful skill in maths in the long run.

    My kid has a real aversion to showing the working, he sits there fiddling with his fingers and looking lost then writes down the right answer. What working he does show is indecipherable. Heck of a skill, I can’t do it.

    To their credit his teachers recognise this too and don’t mark him down for it.

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  12. Alan White

    I’ve said this before, both in class and in print, but Sherlock is the Master of Induction, and Columbo the Master of Deduction. Most often Sherlock concluded things about adversaries by probabilities, whereas Columbo most often trapped his victims by inescapable logic given his evidence.

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  13. synred

    whereas Columbo most often trapped his victims by inescapable logic given his evidence

    Naw…Colombo just drove them crazy by following the suspect around acting friendly till he/she confessed. A kind of verbal water-boarding </:_)= . A show so patterned there was no suspense.

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  14. wtc48

    “It was easier to know it than to explain why I know it.” Wonderful statement! At least he was able to go through all the steps, but he didn’t need to, except to explain it to someone else. It’s Holmes’s logical equivalent of absolute pitch, which is equally certain but generally much less capable of reflective analysis. This is a level of knowledge that animals have, through a combination of learning and instinct, although many of them have some capacity for abductive inference: when I enter a room with my ski cap on, they immediately dance around the door in anticipation of a walk.

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  15. wtc48

    To link this somewhat to the topic at hand, Feyerabend’s statement — “In both cases we have to ask how a certain social product refers to the nature that surrounds it; in both cases we recognize that the received theories (of science, of myth) contradict conspicuous — though not always familiar — facts.” — seems to seems to suggest a link between myth creation and the process of scientific discovery, perhaps at some deeper level of thought that eludes prosaic explanation.

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  16. Alan White

    synred–

    With due respect, Columbo’s suspects never confessed. They were trapped by evidence so that they had no option but to be arrested. I can’t think of a single instance in the 60s-70s series that a murderer confessed. That was the whole point: you knew from the beginning whodunnit–the point was how could Columbo prove it!

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  17. SocraticGadfly

    Back to the SEP on abduction, and perhaps somewhat directly related to Feyerabend (the part before we get to Strauss and myth). It seems like version 1, at least, of strong abduction (talking about abduction’s science-world use only) is pretty vulnerable to Kuhnian paradigm shifts. Abductors can lean too hard on an extant theory and refuse to admit the ground is being pulled out from under them.

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  18. Robin Herbert

    I would have thought that the pattern in Columbo was to start with an accumulation of abductive reasons, first uncovering the red herrings and misdirection laid my the murderer then fairly quickly identifying the murderer. The murderer is usually given the opportunity to provide alternative explanations to these. Finally the murderer is trapped with a deduction (or sometimes a trap) from which they cannot escape.

    Interestingly in the very first episode the reasoning that leads him to the murderer in the first place turns out to be wrong.

    Columbo, a modern myth if there ever was one!

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  19. brodix

    This is only tangental, but I thought it interesting neurology and how we network, from myth to science;
    http://medicalxpress.com/news/2016-12-sherlock-reveal-memories.html

    “In the new study, researchers show that when people watch a movie, specific brain activity patterns can be identified for each scene in the movie. What’s more, each movie scene brain pattern is similar between people while they watch the movie, and similar between people when they speak from memory about the movie in their own words. This goes beyond showing that some part of the brain is “active” (reacting high or low) during some movie scene; the researchers show there is a distinct brain pattern, like a fingerprint, for each movie scene.”

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  20. synred

    “The sole foundation for belief in the natural sciences,” he[Condorset] declared, “is the idea that the general laws directing the phenomena of the universe, known or unknown, are necessary and constant. Why should this principle be any less true for the development of the intellectual and moral faculties of man than for other operations of nature?”

    From Wilson, E. O.. Consilience: The Unity of Knowledge (p. 21). Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.

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  21. Robin Herbert

    We don’t know whether or not the laws directing the phenomena of the universe are necessary or constant. They have been constant for the little time we have inhabited the Universe. I am not sure why those things should be a foundation at all for belief in the natural sciences, let alone the sole foundation. Surely they are both part of the hypothesis

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  22. wtc48

    “some deeper level of thought that eludes prosaic explanation”

    My own expression carries an implication of mystic imponderables that grates on me. Prosaic explanation seems essential for science.

    The “deeper level of thought,” in humans, might be partially accessible neurologically, through analysis of brain activity. My hunch is that it might also be related to the instinctive behavior of wild animals in their natural setting, but for purposes of scientific experiment, they might as well be on Jupiter; a wild animal in a lab (or any human-controlled setting) is no longer wild.

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