Let us continue our in-depths discussion of Julian Baggini’s The Edge of Reason, a book that aims, in a sense, at striking a balance between the Scylla of scientistic rationalism and the Charybdis of anti-rational relativism. Chapter 5 concerns what Julian calls “the challenge of psychology,” the idea that since much of our thinking is unconscious, we are not really rational beings, as much as rationalizing ones.
The chapter begins with a short introduction to the famous trolley dilemma, introduced by philosopher Philippa Foot as a tool to bring out our moral intuitions. I will not summarize the thought experiment, since it is well known. Baggini says that it is obvious that when many people “go consequentialist” in one version of the dilemma, and “Kantian” in another, this is because different psychological intuitions, not any explicit moral reasoning, are at play. Which immediately brings him to Daniel Kahneman’s famous distinction between “System 1” and “System 2” reasoning: the version of the dilemma that involves a more personal interaction with others is likely to trigger our emotional responses (System 1), while the impersonal version activates our thinking in terms of large numbers and consequences (System 2).
The problem, of course, is that it may be difficult, philosophically speaking, to make sense of one’s diverging reactions to the different situations posed by the trolley dilemma: “if asked why we should not push the person, we don’t say, ‘I don’t know, it just feels wrong.’ Rather, we come up with various rational justifications, such as the idea that it is wrong to use a person as a means to an end — even when this is just what we were prepared to do in the lever case.”
Kahneman himself seems pretty pessimistic about the sort of inference about human reasoning that we should make from his research: “when asked if his 45 years of study had changed the way that he makes decisions, [Kahneman] had to reply, ‘They haven’t really, very little, because System 1, the intuitive system, the fast thinking, is really quite immune to change. Most of us just go to our graves with the same perceptual system we were born with.’”
Setting aside that even the interviewer had a hard time taking Kahneman’s words at face value, Baggini says “not so fast,” so to speak. He points out that System 1 is an “enemy of reason” only if we conceptualize reason as identical to formal logic, which he has been at pains to argue, in the previous five chapters, is far too narrow a conception.
Julian maintains that the sort of “gut feelings” we sometimes have, especially, but not only, when it comes to moral situations, are in fact the result of quick heuristics embedded into System 1: “Heuristics are cognitive shortcuts, and the key is that they wouldn’t have evolved if they didn’t work more often than not. The problem is that they are so deep rooted that we often find ourselves using them even when we don’t need a quick, snappy solution but cool, calm reasoning.”
Julian seems to hint, in the passage above, that these System 1-based heuristics are the result of biologically rooted instincts, and surely in part that is the case. But I don’t see why they cannot also be the outcome of accumulated experiences, and more likely a deeply intertwined combination of both.
Baggini goes on to suggest that it isn’t at all obvious — as utilitarians, or Kantian deontologists, would argue — that moral questions ought to be analyzed solely on the basis of “cold” (i.e., impartial) reason. The most obvious case, he maintains, is that of parental love. As parents we are partial to our children, and given a choice between intervening on behalf of our child or on behalf of a stranger’s child, we do not hesitate and choose the former. And rightly so, says Julian, as the world wouldn’t likely be a better place if everyone treated their kids as random members of the population. That, of course, generates a tension between “local” ethics (i.e., our personal moral decisions) and “universal” ethics (what we should do when we think of humanity at large). Welcome to the human condition, where sound judgment (which, remember, for Baggini is what defines reason in the broadest terms) is a necessary component of our existence. And where Systems 1 and 2 constantly interplay.
Julian then moves to the perilous territory of “gendered” reason: what if it turns out that people of different genders think in significantly, if not radically, different ways, ways that are deeply rooted in their gender identity? Should we then not talk about reason(s), in the plural, instead of the singular term, and concept, we inherited from the Enlightenment?
He reports a strange conversation he had with the French philosopher Luce Irigaray, who has been influenced by the Lacanian school of psychotherapy, and who thinks of gender differences in a somewhat radical fashion: “When I interviewed her, I suggested that [her position] means that in a sense I was not meeting her at all, since we could not share the same understanding. She agreed. ‘In this moment we seem to be in the same place, inhabiting the same space, the same time, the same country, the same culture, the same language. In a way it is only an illusion.’”
Julian labels this an “extreme” position, “frankly not supported by the best evidence of psychology.” I’m slightly more blunt: it’s nonsense on stilts.
He elaborates along lines that seem eminently sound to me: “Feminist philosophy, for instance, is not separate from all other philosophy. A feminist critique of epistemology (theory of knowledge) has its force because it suggests there is something epistemology is missing because of distortions rooted in gender, distortions it seeks to remedy. Such a critique would lack any power if it amounted to the claim that there is male epistemology and female epistemology, and each of the two should mind their own business.” Exactly, though the latter is, indeed, the position of some radical feminists and gender studies scholars.
Baggini goes on to analyze the gender gap within the philosophical profession, ascribing it to the intellectual culture within, in terms of the assumption that discussions have to be value-neutral (while feminism, most obviously, isn’t), and especially that academic philosophy is characterized by the encouragement of a confrontational approach toward colleagues, which makes a number of women feel very uncomfortable.
All of this certainly does play a role (and indeed, I’ve seen it with my own eyes), but I would like to remind people that a comparable gender gap exists within plenty of other fields where there is no such (special) culture of confrontation, and where there are no approaches to technical matters that depart from value neutrality: mathematics, chemistry, physics and engineering come to mind. So I dispute the idea that the gender gap in philosophy is peculiar to the field, or that the profession itself should undergo some kind of radical change in order to resolve the problem. The problem is going to be resolved in the same way in which it is being addressed in other fields: by encouraging young girls to embrace areas that have been seen as traditionally “male,” on the simple ground that there is no reason at all why they shouldn’t succeed in them. And of course by an explicitly fair treatment of women undergraduate and graduate students, as well as faculty at different ranks. Something, incidentally, that philosophy as a profession is very aware of and has been implementing for years through the efforts of the American Philosophical Association.
So what does psychology tell us about human reason? Baggini suggests a revision of Plato’s famous analogy between the human mind and a chariot led by two horses: “we would do better not to think of the human soul as comprising two wildly different horses and a controlling charioteer, but as being one single equine which draws on all sorts of cognitive tools, from the conscious, systemic and deliberative to the automatic, unconscious and affective.” It’s more a mule than a thoroughbred, he says. The image may be less ennobling, but it is “better to be a many-skilled mule than one-trick pony.”

I don’t understand why he thinks “cold” reasoning would lead us to give equal consideration to other children as to our own. There is nothing inherently rational about such a course of action. It is just appealing to a different set of emotions than the choice to prefer our own children.
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It appears that the empirical evidence regarding bias and women in the profession has been deliberately misrepresented by activists for political purposes:
http://www.mdpi.com/2409-9287/2/2/12/htm
A recent study actually showed that currently, men are at a disadvantage relative to women in hiring. Indeed, women tended to get jobs with half the number of publications on their resumes as men. The under-representation of women, then, may very likely lie elsewhere.
http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fpsyg.2017.00953/full
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Oh, and you and Baggini are absolutely right regarding the rightness of the disparity between how one treats one’s own children versus the children of total strangers. That philosophers like Peters Singer and Unger have not only suggested that things should be otherwise but that it is somehow monstrous that they are not, is simply a testament to how out of touch and frankly, flat-out weird (or, perhaps, catastrophically disingenuous) some of the most prominent philosophers are.
As for standpoint epistemology, it represents such a corruption of our discipline by politics that I sometimes wonder if it will survive in the academy.
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Dan,
Interesting links, thanks!
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But if someone decided to give equal consideration to other children as to their own, that would not be an example of cool dispassionate reasoning as Baggini seems to suggest..
It would be just as much a ‘hot’ emotion led decision as the decision to prefer our own chikdrens needs, just one based on different emotions.
There is no pure rational case for treating other children on an equal footing to our own.
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Robin,
I suppose by “cold” he just meant the moral notion of “the greatest happiness for the greatest number”. But then I’m with you on that — my boy will always get special treatment from me. Actually I have little use for moral notions anyway, whether they come from Bentham or anyone else.
I find that academic endeavors have a problem truly grasping the concept of subjectivity — not just in philosophy, but in psychology as well. These trolley problems are solved I think, once we get away from moral notions of good and go directly to the utility of any given subject over a specified period of time.
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Robin,
As I just said, there is such a purely logical case, it’s called consequentialism.
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Massimo,
Consequentialism requires people to make value judgements about consequences, and so has an emotion-based, a-rational component just as all moral systems do.
But, more generally, why would we be surprised that — as Baggini suggests — human thinking is a whole lot of emotion, reason, rationalisation, quick heuristics, and all sorts of stuff, all mixed together? This is exactly how evolution works, by cobbling together layers upon layers of whatever works (“works” in the sense of leaving more descendants).
So of course we’re not consciously calculating rational creatures; most human decision will be arrived at by non-conscious, heuristic neural-net processes, most of which we’re not consciously aware of.
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Not much data in those papers cited by Dan. Hermanson apparently was hired at FIU with one paper if one looks at his CV. Somehow I am not convinced.
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Actually, contra Kahneman himself, as I tweeted to Massimo a few days ago, it seems that sometimes, his “fast” or “system 1” thinking can be overridden: http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2017/06/to-make-better-decisions-rely-on-imagination-over-willpower.html?utm_source=nym&utm_medium=f1&utm_campaign=feed-part
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Two additional notes:
First, Dan’s observation is only about academia, or one portion of it. The obvious counterexample from elsewhere is symphony orchestras’ past HUGE bias in hiring women, which was only resolved when major orchestras agreed to run tryouts for spots with players behind screens.
Second, per women and philosophy, here’s five badass women for you, courtesy Existential Comics. http://existentialcomics.com/comic/190
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Rather than overhauling Plato’s analogy, Baggini had our friend David’s observation about reason and the passions already at hand. Don’t know why he didn’t use it, but, IMO, always go to the original on something like that.
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Coel,
You seem to be missing the point of Baggini’s argument: he is interested in redefining what counts as rational, not in engaging in evopsych speculation.
And once more: consequentialism is a perfectly rational philosophy, with arguments, and so forth. It isn’t just the reflection of someone’s gut feelings.
Socratic,
No, Hume clearly won’t do. Reason as the slave of passions? Just ask the victims of any of the recent terrorist attacks what they think about that maxim.
Michael,
Seems to me at least the links Dan provided are about empirical evidence (today Brian Leiter tweeted more). The other side tends to rely on anecdotes and gut feelings. As well as on some really crude stats that don’t take into account the proper baseline.
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Well, Massimo, I was using shorthand. People who know the full quote know that Hume went on to say that the motivation caused by the passions needs to be controlled by reason.
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And, as noted, even if Dan is right, Massimo, it’s just about academic philosophy. That said, if we’re going to talk about addressing issues in academic philosophy, shouldn’t more universities start teaching more non-Western philosophy? I, along with Brett Welch and others, say yes.
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And for anybody who wants a link on gender bias in orchestras: https://www.theguardian.com/women-in-leadership/2013/oct/14/blind-auditions-orchestras-gender-bias
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Socratic,
It isn’t really at all clear just how much Hume intended to qualify that quote, and it is often misunderstood, as you know.
Yes, it is academic philosophy because that’s what Baggini is talking about. As I say in the OP, other fields have similar problems, for similar reasons — i.e., philosophy is not exceptional.
As for non-Western philosophy, contra popular lore, plenty of departments (including mine) teach it. But I wouldn’t put it necessarily in an intro philosophy course, because many faculty are not sufficiently familiar with it, and because — as I argued in my book on the nature of philosophy last year — actually a lot of it is very different from “philosophy” as we understand it within the Western canon.
What I would do, however, is to change the title of intro courses (just like the tagline of this blog…) to “Western philosophy,” to make clear that the focus is on one particular, if historically very important, tradition.
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Massimo,
No, consequentialism is not a purely rational philosophy, and neither is it mere gut feeling. Instead it is a mixture of reason and argument about consequences AND value judgements about those consequences. The latter are, at root, non-rational. Yes, reasoning can inform and affect value judgements, but there is an inevitable emotional “gut feeling” core to them. Indeed the same applies to all moral systems.
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M.F. Think whatever you like. I find it all pretty damning.
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socratic: Well of course it’s only about philosophy. That’s what the discussion is about: the gender gap within philosophy. The gender gap in symphony orchestras is irrelevant to that discussion.
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Coel: You’re account of Consequentialism is incorrect.
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Michael,
Here is the link to Leiter’s commentary: http://tinyurl.com/y7ja7yor. If you follow his own links you’ll see a significant amount of further commentary and data. Maybe it isn’t “damning,” as Dan put it, but it sure ought to make us reflect on the whole issue…
Coel,
Please provide me an example of an emotional component that goes into formulating consequentialism ethics.
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Massimo: By damning, I mean with respect to the relentless drumbeat that has been coming from the Social Justice corner of the profession, from the likes of Jennifer Saul, Jonathan Jenkins Ichikawa, and others, and from whom now we hear nothing but crickets chirping.
Look it was always the case that inferences to discrimination from statistical disparities alone are outright fallacious, and that only someone who is hopelessly partisan doesn’t recognize it. What will be interesting to see is whether, now that there is hard empirical data, the same crowd will actively ignore it or engage in some kind of special pleading or perhaps, even acknowledge that perhaps the reason for the under-representation lies somewhere else.
As for these rubbish implicit bias tests, I wrote about them myself not too long ago. Of course, the illiberal, things people have tried to do with them are even worse than the tests themselves.
https://theelectricagora.com/2017/01/14/liberalism-implicit-bias-and-thoughtcrime-on-the-subject-of-the-i-a-t/
One can only hope that the sorts of empirical revelations we are talking about will begin to turn the tide on the toxic form of social justice we are all suffering today and return us to a more traditional liberal footing. One can hope, but I must admit to not being very confident.
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Hi Massimo,
As above, reason can tell you what the consequences are, but one needs to make a value judgement about the consequences. That value judgement has an emotional core, not a rational one.
To be explicit. Suppose Act A had the consequence of everyone dying horribly in a nuclear war, whereas Act B had the consequences of everyone living happily ever after. In order for the consequentialist to conclude that Act B is moral and Act A immoral, they would first have to realise: “I would prefer the state of everyone living happily ever after to everyone dying horribly in a nuclear war”. That preference is a value judgement, an emotion, it is non-rational, not something arrived at from reason.
And I’m baffled by your question, isn’t my answer obvious? (That’s a genuine question by the way, not an attempt to be snarky.) Like Socratic, I could quote Hume here.
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‘that academic philosophy is characterised by the encouragement of a confrontational approach toward colleagues, which makes a number of women feel very uncomfortable.’
I wonder how many men actually believe this? I also wonder if they are the type of man that calls a woman who doesn’t agree with them ‘uppity’?
‘ The problem is going to be resolved in the same way in which it is being addressed in other fields: by encouraging young girls to embrace areas that have been seen as traditionally “male,”’
Yes. When I was working in academia and had to look into the gender disparity in mathematics and physics, we were led to the conclusion that the problem really started at a very young age when girls were rarely given any encouragement from family and peers to take an interest in these subjects.
As an extra anecdote that I find interesting. Computer programming is considered very male dominated. I work in IT for very large companies ( > 100,000 employees) and 99% of the female programmers I know are either Indian, Chinese, Nigerian, Indonesian or Pakistani. I wonder why?
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Oh, I know that myself on the misunderstood, on Hume’s quote. Otherwise, I think it can, the full thing, be understood tangentially in light of Kahneman. That said, I can’t prove that, I know. I still don’t think he means exactly what Kahneman means, though, no.
In light of what Baggini says about including the “affective” (and the “unconscious”), though, I think Hume’s metaphor would have fit well.
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Speaking of Kahneman more, and I know it’s only one study, but, do you have any thoughts on that link of mine about using imagination to work around “System 1”?
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I can understand having to deal with the difference on east vs west on philosophy. Gotcha otherwise on the teaching. And, since I’m not in academia, I don’t know how much is perception. I know that friend Brett got his Ph.D. (and is still hoping for a collegiate/university teaching gig).
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Coel,
The problem is that you think too many things are “obvious” when they are no such thing.
Utilitarianism is based on maximizing and/or minimizing a specificied utility function, typically maximizing most people’s “happiness” (however defined) and minimizing most people’s pain.
Those particular parameters certainly derive from human psychology (human beings tend to like feeling happy and dislike feeling pain), but any specific utilitarian conclusion about any specific moral question is logically derived from those axioms. And we are talking about the specifics here, not the axioms. Moreover, as you know, different moral philosophies begin with different axioms.
That is the sense in which Baggini uses the words “cold logic”: automatically derived from axioms. The choice of axioms themselves may be “emotional,” in the broad (and actually fairly objective!) sense, but since different ethical systems use different axioms that tells us not much that is of use in this discussion.
And see my comments above about Hume, which I am guessing you interpret precisely in the way I told Socratic one shouldn’t.
Socratic,
I’ll need to look at the details of the study reported in the article you linked to. Prima facie, seems plausible to me.
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The trolley dilemma brings to mind Shrodinger’s Cat; A binary choice, drawn from complex input, up to and including the perceptions of the observer. There is no real answer, outside of the actual occurrence of the event.
Emotion could be thought of as an expression of energy. If we think how it sorts out, it is a subconscious power struggle and the wisest choice isn’t made, when the impulse overrides the reason.
Emotions are not controlled by ignoring them, but by listening to them intently, so that you do have some understanding, before the surprises seemingly come out of the blue. Just as in society, revolutions don’t just spontaneously occur, but when significant sectors of society have been suppressed.
Emotion is not inherently irrational.
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Hi Massimo,
Then we’re agreed. That was indeed my point (and, I believe, Robin’s).
But if we’re all agreed then maybe they are fairly obvious. 🙂
I probably am, yes (though your discussion with Socratic on the point is slightly too cryptic for me to discern the intent).
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Brodix,
“The trolley dilemma brings to mind Shrodinger’s Cat”
It does??
Coel,
No, we are not agreed at all. But I’ll pass on any further attempt for this thread.
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Hi Massimo
Do you mean to say that there is a purely rational case to be made for the decision to maximise the utility in society generally rather than maximise the utility of ourselves or our own circle at the expense of others if necessary?
If not then the position is based on gut feeling.
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The needs of the many outweighing the needs of the few is no more a logical position than the needs of the few outweighing the needs of the many, no matter what Mr Spock says.
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