If you endorse GMOs, get the science straight

GMO foodOne of the many public controversies about science swirling around nowadays concerns so-called GMOs, or Genetically Modified Organisms. It has become fashionable in certain quarters to bash any criticism of GMOs, regardless of whether it is directed to their alleged health implications, to their (again, alleged) long-term environmental impact, or to the (much less alleged and more concrete) market and labor practice of large GMOs producers like Monsanto.

To make my stance perfectly clear from the outset and not sidetrack the discussion, here is what I think at the moment, given the evidence so far, my readings of (part of the huge) literature, and my own biases and preconceptions:

i) I do not think there is any reason to be concerned about adverse health effects of GMOs that are currently on the market, or that will be produced using similar methods and certification protocols.

ii) I do not think there is currently a good reason to be worried about long-term adverse environmental impact of GMOs, although here the issue is more complex, at the very least because any form of large-scale agriculture based on mass production of a small number of edible species should be of concern.

iii) I do think that GMOs producers have been engaging in questionable to highly questionable market and labor practices, and that they ought to be strictly regulated, as should the food industry in general — but then again I’m known to be a social-democrat with Chomskyan tendencies, so there.

Needless to say, all three of these positions are open to revision, in one direction or the other, should new pertinent evidence come out to change my priors.

So what’s this essay about, then? It concerns my objection to the use of bad arguments even when one is right, and “skeptics” of a pro-science persuasion all too often engage in just that questionable practice. For instance, in my Nonsense on Stilts: How to Tell Science from Bunk I noted that some critics of ufology have not hesitated to simply make up out of whole cloth “explanations” for some sightings of alleged flying saucers. Turns out there was — of course — natural and mundane explanations for those sightings, but the true skeptics had not bothered to look for them, cocksure as they were that UFOs don’t exist (they don’t, really).

This is a point that was made decades ago by one of my least favored philosophers of science, Paul Feyerabend, when he provocatively went around defending astrologers and creationists to make the point that the scientific establishment was not carrying out its epistemic duty to inquire rather than dismiss.

Back to GMOs. The attitude that I criticized in those skeptics of UFOs reappeared in a blog post by one “Skeptical Raptor,” of whom I know nothing except what s/he writes about him/herself: “Lifetime lover of science, especially biomedical research. Spent years in academics, business development, research, and traveling the world shilling for Big Pharma.”

Raptor wrote a post entitled “Ten thousand years of GMO foods — making inedible edible,” an article which was immediately reposted by my own favorite skeptic organization, New York City Skeptics, and which repeats claims I’ve heard made with confidence by highly prominent skeptics, such as Michael Shermer of Skeptic magazine.

Here is the claim, in Raptor’s very own words: “One of the tropes of the anti-GMO movement is that nature does it better for food, a logical fallacy. In other words, they believe that our ancestors’ foods are somehow better than our GMO foods. Of course, this belies the fact that there are over ten thousand years of GMO foods – it’s really not something that showed up during the last century or so.”

Ah, the old trick of scoring a quick victory by accusing one’s opponents of committing a logical fallacy, in this case the “appeal to nature” one. (Never mind that my colleagues Maarten Boudry, Fabio Paglieri, and I have shown that far too often alleged fallacies are actually pretty good heuristics, and that it isn’t very helpful to simply label another’s argument as fallacious without explaining in some detail why exactly that is the case in each specific instance.)

Raptor first makes an irrelevant swipe at creationists (I wonder, was that a red herring type fallacy?) and then rhetorically asks: “what is the difference between the genetic manipulation of our ancestors, who had to wait for the right mutation, or modern biotechnology, which finds the best mutation and places it in the plant? Not really that much, unless, and I can’t stress this enough, you think that ‘nature’ has some supernatural power.”

No, this has nothing to do with Nature’s supernatural powers, but it does have to do with the fact that artificial selection is not at all the same process as the production of GMOs in the modern sense of the term. They are very different things, and to pretend that the second is simply a continuation of the former is bad for critical thinking, and ultimately undermines one’s own (otherwise perfectly reasonable) argument.

As it turns out, there are two categories of GMOs: the first is the result of genetic engineering that uses as source material DNA from the same species, the second one is obtained by engineering a novel genome by importing DNA from a different species. The technical term for the second class is transgenic organism. Much of the fracas about GMOs has to do with transgenics (otherwise tendentiously known as “Frankenfoods”), not with GMOs obtained by modification of their own species’ genetic makeup.

Now, from a scientific perspective there are at least five different ways of producing genetically novel crops:

I) old fashioned artificial selection relying on naturally occurring genetic variation (which we have been doing since at the least the agricultural revolution);

II) cross-breeding of different but genetically compatible species, as in the case of commercial orchids, for instance;

III) enhanced artificial selection, where the selection is preceded by a treatment that greatly increases the natural, standing genetic variation — for instance by exposing the organisms to radiation that causes a much larger number of mutations than normal;

IV) intraspecific GMOs;

V) transgenic organisms.

It makes no sense, from a biological standpoint, to claim that these are all the same thing, and much less so to claim that (V) is no different from (I), which is where all the controversy is. Selecting random variations that are already present in a population of organisms is e qualitatively completely distinct process from extracting the DNA from one species, inserting it into a suitable “vehicle” (usually a virus, though we now have other methods, including gene guns), and then using that vehicle to incorporate the foreign DNA into a different species. In fact, pretty much the only thing the two processes have in common is the word “DNA.”

Now, Raptor and the other skeptics are correct when they say that there is no evidence of (V) being any more dangerous to our health than (I) (or II, or III, or IV, for that matter). But it just isn’t right to claim that they are the same thing that we’ve been doing for thousands of years. They aren’t, and we haven’t.

This is not a matter of being pedantic about science minutiae. Truth and honesty are important values that are all too frequently ignored or trampled in contemporary public discourse. We don’t need to help ourselves to false or inaccurate claims to make our case, because the facts (so far) make it for us. Let’s stick to the facts, then, shall we?

97 thoughts on “If you endorse GMOs, get the science straight

  1. cosmicaug

    ribosomalsubunit writes:

    I know there is some quote about how horrible it is to hear a bad argument for your position. What about the logic of assuming all GMOs are safe based on the safety of those tested so far? I agree they seem safe so far, but isn’t that like declaring that all drugs are safe because drug X, Y, and Z have been found to be safe. Does each new modification need the same kind of testing before it can be declared safe?

    Yes and no. You are correct but your framing is not necessarily correct. In theory I could, of course, deliberately produce a genetically engineered crop which is unsafe. In fact, though the tools at my disposal when using genetic engineering are uniquely powerful, I could also produce a crop that is unsafe even if I avoided the use of genetic engineering. Why I would choose to do so and how I would get that into the marketplace is another matter.

    A categorical assumption of safety is simply unwarranted but I don’t know anyone who does that. The question is more nuanced than that. The question is whether genetically engineered products merit special attention and how much? Even the whole Category I-V framing in this blog post is really not that helpful. For instance, people are horrified of the transgenic high carotene bananas and yet the meat end of the event comes from a related banana so it would be at best a Category II change (the promoters used and the selection maker —assuming it remains in the final product— not so much, however).

    The real issue here is what needs to be done with respect too process.

    I would maintain that process may be of limited relevance. What matters is what we do, not how we do it. What is our final product?

    For instance, if it were determined that herbicide tolerance traits merit special oversight, it would be unwise to apply it only to plant varieties in which said traits have been created via genetic engineering.

    So while I think the question of whether each modification needs the same kind of testing as drugs is not a bad question I think you probably meant to imply genetic engineering in the posing of it. That is, what you were really asking was “does each new genetically engineered modification need…”. The answer to that question may depend on the modification itself and what it is trying to achieve.

    If the modification is supposed to produce a drug it would be absurd to not regulate it as a drug (based on some justification that it came from a genetically engineered crop —not that I have ever seen anyone advocate this). If the modification, on the other hand, makes it so a crop produces elevated levels of beta carotene and, other than this characteristic, you can’t find a way to distinguish the resulting plant from a plant of the same genetic background but without the trait, I don’t see a reason to assume this plant to be any more dangerous than other equivalent food sources of beta carotene. It does not seem rational to me to treat this plant any differently than a different plant that does the same thing only because the means by which we achieved it involved the use of genetic engineering.

    And then there are the questions of unintended consequences. It would seem like a shotgun approach would be more likely to produce those than an engineered approach and non-genetic engineering approaches tend to be more like a shotgun approach while genetic engineering approaches tend to be more engineering like (thus the name).

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  2. Nanocyborgasm


    Yes you’re fond of talking about testing without having any notion of what to test. I bet that not only do you not know what sort of testing is necessary but that no one does. And I suspect this because no convincing harm has yet to be demonstrated through transgenic products. (There may very well be.). That is why suggesting independent testing means nothing. There are no independent testers of this. And I bet that if you do suggest testing of insecticides on other insects than those intended


  3. Nanocyborgasm


    Yes you’re fond of talking about testing without having any notion of what to test. I bet that not only do you not know what sort of testing is necessary but that no one does. And I suspect this because no convincing harm has yet to be demonstrated through transgenic products. (There may very well be.). That is why suggesting independent testing means nothing. There are no independent testers of this. And I bet that if you do suggest testing of insecticides on other insects than those intended, it’ll be so many insects that it would be impossible to pass the test. Here’s a news flash for you, most insecticides are neurotoxins that affect acetylcholine neurotransmission, which happens to be the same as most vertebrates on earth, including humans. Would that mean that, by your standards, none of these insecticides are acceptable?


  4. synred

    “Yes you’re fond of talking about testing without having any notion of what to test”

    Quite so!

    I’m not talking about me doing the testing, defining the protocols or interpreting the results.

    I’m a particle physicist not a biologist, geneticist or farmer. I don’t have the expertise. I’m to old to acquire it.

    I just don’t think ‘the fox should be in charge of the hen house’. It should be someone independent who knows about hens!

    This a very general principle that has nothing to do with my lack of expertise.

    That, I think, is a red herring!

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  5. Carl Kruse

    For a moment, based on the title, I thought this was going to be a criticism of those who endorse GMO’s. After reading the post I see far from it, that Massimo largely endorses the science behind GMO’s. The BUSINESS practices of some companies engaged in GMO research, e.g., Monsanto, leaves much to be desired certainly.

    Carl Kruse

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